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ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks agoDo you believe illegal immigrants get nabbed and immediately tossed out of the country?
No: they get detained. And with any luck, they wait for their day in court. If they’re not so lucky, they might wait the next bus to the border. And if they arrive in the next country in large enough numbers - assuming the country accepts them - then they get detained on the other side of the border.
That’s how it works. But don’t let reality disturb your MAGA fantasy world.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
No, when did I say that?
You are correct about the process. That is how things should be done. I don’t think being poor and brown should make you immune from having to follow the law.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Or white. Or President of the United States…
Indeed you’re correct. My point is, due process - hell, even the simply physics of moving groups of people in a somewhat efficient and cost-effective way - implies holding people captive in places they’re desperate to leave. That’s called detention. And when detention centers are full - and if the Orange Utan really follows through with his promise, they will be full very soon - then concentration camps will spring up. They’ll have other names - temporary repatriation centers, processing centers… but that’s what they’ll be. And it’ll be a fucking stain on the United states.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 4 weeks ago
It’s not a concentration camp unless it specifically targets:
Maybe you consider “criminal” to be a demographic? I don’t, maybe that’s where are disagreement lies here.
That said I’ve generally opposed mass deportations in the United States. I don’t think they’re wrong to do at all, but I think it’s more important to secure the border, and it would be a better use of our resources to give the illegals who are here a path to citizenship that they may follow so long as they do not break any additional laws. If people here are going to work and be peaceful, there’s nothing to be lost by letting them live here and have full citizenship IMHO, even if it would technically be more just to boot them back to where they came from.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Oh I see! It’s a problem of semantics.
Well now, I’m sure the people held in miserable conditions in those not-concentration-camps will be happy to know they’re not being held in concentration camps…
Also, people are innocent until proven guilty. Your “criminals” held in not-concentration-camps are not criminals until they get their day in court. Siince Trump promised millions of deportation, assuming due process is followed, they’ll wait in limbo in not-concentration-camps for a mighty long time. And if due process is not followed, which is more likely, they’ll eventually be expelled from the US without having been convicted of anything.