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Comment on Regarding my new rules, how should i approach this, just ban what the rolling class dems as hate symbols, looking for feedback

Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

The problem is that the name of the community here is: FreeForum. You can post about anything so you can't keep people on topic because any topic goes. I say let 'em rip because we are racist no matter what we post. Freedom is Antiemetic so as long as we have freedom, we are anti-Semites.

But we are here because we value freedom.

Maybe just put a racist flair on it or something. Trying to avoid the inevitable ban hammer is futile. If they can't find racist content, they will lie and invent it for us.

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asdf2@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The fact that having a free forum is now inherently incompatible with this platform without reduced visiblity by self censoring or forced by an admin says a lot about wolfballs.

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- Fisuxcel@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Check out freeforumextreme
  
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- masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Sorry for the ban, we've been under attack heavily lately. dos attacks, fake account ect.
  
  Look man, I have no interest in hosting a site that is dedicated to being antisemitic. I want people to be able to have hard conversations. But I can't host a site where every post or comment is like this one https://wolfballs.com/post/20865/comment/16805
  
  Either we get diversity of opinion or though or I can't keep doing this.
  
  I enjoyed ruqqus while it lasted and want that experience again.
  
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  - asdf2@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I appreciate where you're coming from and I completely understand your position. But I fear it is inherently incompatible with free speech. The solution to ignorance isn't censorship. I'm seeing a lot of the mistakes Ruqqus and other platforms have made now being made here. I also appreciate the unban and the apology, but if I didn't know Wiggle we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
    
    The kind of people you are trying to attract don't care if you denounce racism and Nazis on your homepage. To them, we are all of us Nazis just for participating on the platform at all.
    
    Anyway you were right earlier - I am not part of this community so maybe my opinion shouldn't matter. Maybe there are a ton of potential users who are okay with a central authority deciding what constitutes hate and racism. Maybe wolfballers(?) don't care about the new rules and if that's the case who am I to try and change them. Maybe people don't really want free speech.
    
    I do. But I'm just an internet nomad looking for a home. I know there are fellow ruqqies here so I feel compelled to speak up when I see the warning signs.
    
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    masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    But I fear it is inherently incompatible with free speech. The solution to ignorance isn’t censorship.
    
    I actually don't have freespeech anywhere on the site. I value free speech but there is a reason it isn't listed. It's to hard to define.
    
    The kind of people you are trying to attract don’t care if you denounce racism and Nazis on your homepage. To them, we are all of us Nazis just for participating on the platform at all.
    
    I have not said what kind of people I am trying to attract.
    
    Anyway you were right earlier - I am not part of this community
    
    Yeah it doesn't make sense to listen to someone who isn't using this site in the first place.
    
    After waking up to all this bull shit i'm done tired of it.
    
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  - charliebrownau@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Anti "Semetic" is another weaponised words by Jews to prevent goyim and whites standing up for their own
    
    Race
    
    Nation
    
    Self Interests
    
    Wellbeing
    
    and Calling out
    
    Jews
    
    State of Israel
    
    Zionist
    
    Jewish Lobbies
    
    Judaism
    
    and Crimes by Jews and Jewish groups
    
    It gives them a free pass to do anything and get away with it
    
    JUST LIKE
    
    WOMEN
    
    BLACKS
    
    ARABS
    
    MUSLIMS
    
    Refusal to hold everyone to the EXACT SAME STANDARD is why multi racialism never 'works' and it IS a WEAPON against US by Jews
    
    How many times do we have to see BLACKS MURDERING WHITES
    
    ARABS RAPING WHITES
    
    GANGS STABBING WHITES till we admit Multi racialism DOES NOT WORK
    
    TIme to go our OUR OWN, in our OWN NATIONS, in our own SEPARATE PLACES
    
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    Image
    
    Either you and others support the ablity to talk about
    
    ALL GOVERNMENTS
    
    ALL REGION
    
    ALL RACES
    
    ALL POLITICAL SYSTEMS
    
    ALL FORM of 'hate'
    
    Or you allow the hate, exclusion, demonisation and demoralisation of Whites + Goyim in their own homeland while Jews, Kikes, Corporations and Central banking cartel push 170 NATIONS all together into a single WORLD GOVERNMENT BY 2030
    
    by supporting censorship , silence , demoting, firing , belilting those who are being replaced in their own homelands
    
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- Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Seeing as we have maybe 5 really active users and it is a young platform, I don't think it says anything about Wolfballs only that they are trying to figure out how to handle certain things. Answers are a little harder to come up with when your ass is literally attached to something.
  
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masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
@wigglehard@wolfballs.com @Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com

imo, I think this should generally be the case. However; If enough post become Jew Nose memes or black person lip memes then I have to mark !freeforum@wolfballs.com as offensive and people new to the site won't be able to see it until they subscribe to it.

I think having the attitude that most things are acceptable most of the time and if there is any question always lean on the side of freedom.

But if someone comes here with a bunch of low quality post like we need less N***** and then spam post it, it drastically reduces the value of freeforum.

Having a freeforum extreme is like having two layers of freeforum. Free forum is still free because freeforum extreme is part of freeforum. It's just been split into two parts.

That doesn't mean we should ban people for saying a slur. But if someone is posting the same rascist post over and over we need to say, do that one layer deeper in freeforum extreme.

In this way, we keep the edgy nature of it without it devolving into consumeproduct. Almost everyone feels like they need a shower after going there.

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- wigglehard@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I have a compromise, no spamming of racist posts or antisemetic posts,
  
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  - masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That's fine. Things should never be super strict i'm not trying to be like r/news
    
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  - charliebrownau@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    So no discussing real problems and WHO the problem groups are aka censorship
    
    Typical civnat kosher approach
    
    Refuse to talk about the problems
    
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- iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes, you are right. Freeforum is now the face of Wolfballs, so it would turn off newcomers fast
  
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- masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  We could also mark it as nsfw. Make a site wide policy that racist content can only be in nsfw communities. That might be a more consistent way to handle it. Nsfw communities are hidden from front page when not signed in.
  
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  - asdf2@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Who decides what content is considered racist or hateful? Ruqqus tried this too and failed miserably because ultimately a biased human is making those determinations based on opinion.
    
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    masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    Ruqqus tried this too and failed miserably because ultimately a biased human is making those determinations based on opinion.
    
    Basically any post with a cartoon Jew with a big nose is gonna be considered racist.
    
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  - asdf3@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    hey can you do me a huge favor and stop baselessly banning me? I'm asdf from Ruqqus (and discussions) and @wigglehard@wolfballs.com can confirm my identity (I messaged him on gab). Ironically, I signed up because I heard people were being wrongfully banned.
    
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    masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Some guy seer keeps spamming shit with multiple accounts.
    
    No one is being wrongfully banned. You signed up and immediately jumped in this thread. I don't care about a new users opinion on the subject. Its to easy to make ten accounts to make a opinion seem more valid. You can fuck off.
    
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    charliebrownau@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Gab and Minds censor also
    
    Check out
    
    JoshwhoTV - https://www.joshwhotv.com/
    
    Creation.Social - https://www. creation.social/
    
    Loop - https://loop.joshwho.net/
    
    Delta Chat - https://delta.chat/en/ - https://www.joshwhotv.com/v/.QDss2Q?channelName=Charliebrownau
    
    AT (gab) is a {{{ Christian }}} Civnat gatekeeper and shill for sheckles He isnt to be trusted
    
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    I got banned from Minds unfairly - https://www.joshwhotv.com/video/.QGQ72w/charliebrownau-banned-from-minds---6-30pm-aest---01-feb-2021-update-they-sent-a-email-upload-2
    
    I got banned from gab unfairly - https://www.joshwhotv.com/video/.QGQ73A/gab-censored-charliebrownau---sun-17-dec-2020---use-freespechextremist-creation-social-selfhosting
    
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wigglehard@wolfballs.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
@masterofballs@wolfballs.com Read scruffs reply, kind of makes a decent point

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